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Lier, Disciple of the Drowned
Legendary Creature — Human Wizard · {3}{U}{U} · Blue commander
Spells can't be countered.
Each instant and sorcery card in your graveyard has flashback. The flashback cost is equal to that card's mana cost.
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What Lier, Disciple of the Drowned actually does
Read off the card by the same engine the Forge and Analyzer use — this is the mechanical classification, not a summary.
- Static ability · restrictionSpells can't be countered.
- AbilityEach instant and sorcery card in your graveyard has flashback. The flashback cost is equal to that card's mana cost.
What a Lier, Disciple of the Drowned deck needs
Plays as spellslinger. What the commander asks of the other 99 — read from the card and checked by hand.
- cheap instants and sorceries (every one you cast feeds it)
- self-mill, discard and recursion (the graveyard is a resource its text reads)
The Lier, Disciple of the Drowned deck plan
The roles the Forge fills for this commander, and how many cards of each.
- 27× Instants and sorceries — for a magecraft/prowess commander the spell COUNT is the engine
- 12× Put your own cards into your graveyard as a resource
- 5× Actually remove one problem permanent — preventing its damage is not removing it
- 9× Find the exact card the plan needs
- 2× Answer a spell or ability before it resolves
- 1× Answer a whole board at once
- 7× Refill your hand
- 2× Keep a permanent you control alive through removal
- 11× Get ahead on mana
Best cards for Lier, Disciple of the Drowned
Ranked by an engine that reads what each card does — its real cost, its delay and how reliably it works — rather than counting how often other people play it.
Instants and sorceries — for a magecraft/prowess commander the spell COUNT is the engine
- Pact of Negation0 mana
- An Offer You Can't Refuse1 mana
- Brainstorm1 mana
- Mystical Tutor1 mana
- Opt1 mana
- Ponder1 mana
- Pongify1 mana
- Preordain1 mana
Put your own cards into your graveyard as a resource
- Emry, Lurker of the Loch3 mana
- Eden, Seat of the Sanctum0 mana
- Millikin2 mana
- Perpetual Timepiece2 mana
- Ghoulcaller's Bell1 mana
- Fraying Sanity3 mana
- Palantír of Orthanc3 mana
- Sequestered Stash0 mana
Actually remove one problem permanent — preventing its damage is not removing it
- Reality Shift2 mana
- Pongify1 mana
- Rapid Hybridization1 mana
- Resculpt2 mana
- Umezawa's Jitte2 mana
- Titan's Presence3 mana
- Icy Prison2 mana
- Kozilek's Command2 mana
Find the exact card the plan needs
- Reshape2 mana
- Mask of the Mimic1 mana
- Long-Term Plans3 mana
- Transmute Artifact2 mana
- Whir of Invention3 mana
- Merchant Scroll2 mana
- Mystical Tutor1 mana
- Muddle the Mixture2 mana
Answer a spell or ability before it resolves
- Mindbreak Trap4 mana
- Fierce Guardianship3 mana
- Force of Negation3 mana
- Force of Will5 mana
- Flare of Denial3 mana
- Pact of Negation0 mana
- An Offer You Can't Refuse1 mana
- Arcane Denial2 mana
Answer a whole board at once
- Desynchronization4 mana
- Wave Goodbye4 mana
- Whelming Wave4 mana
- Consuming Tide4 mana
- Selective Obliteration5 mana
- Evacuation5 mana
- Perplexing Test5 mana
- Cyclonic Rift2 mana
Refill your hand
- Mystic Remora1 mana
- Skullclamp1 mana
- Curiosity1 mana
- Wizard Class1 mana
- Rhystic Study3 mana
- Faerie Mastermind2 mana
- The One Ring4 mana
- Combat Research1 mana
Keep a permanent you control alive through removal
- Lost in the Maze2 mana
- Lightning Greaves2 mana
- Swiftfoot Boots2 mana
- Eldrazi Monument5 mana
- Commander's Plate1 mana
- Mithril Coat3 mana
- Akroma's Memorial7 mana
- The Walls of Ba Sing Se8 mana
Get ahead on mana
- Sol Ring1 mana
- Palladium Myr3 mana
- Worn Powerstone3 mana
- Chrome Mox0 mana
- Everflowing Chalice0 mana
- Mox Diamond0 mana
- Mana Vault1 mana
- Wayfarer's Bauble1 mana
Combos with Lier, Disciple of the Drowned
Known combos from Commander Spellbook that Lier, Disciple of the Drowned is a piece of, and how many decks list them.
- Lier, Disciple of the Drowned + Merfolk Secretkeeper + Ashnod's Altar + Chromatic Orrery17 decks
- Lier, Disciple of the Drowned + Merfolk Secretkeeper + Phyrexian Altar + Desecrated Tomb5 decks
- Lier, Disciple of the Drowned + Rosethorn Acolyte + Ashnod's Altar + Swarm Intelligence2 decks
- Lier, Disciple of the Drowned + Leyline Of Sanctity + Sky Swallower + Fractured Identity2 decks
- Lier, Disciple of the Drowned + Merfolk Secretkeeper + Ashnod's Altar + Mycosynth Lattice1 decks
- Lier, Disciple of the Drowned + Rosethorn Acolyte + Ashnod's Altar + The Mirari Conjecture